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FATE OR FREEWILL IN A HOROSCOPE
Feeling like you have no control over your own life? Like all the well intentioned law of attraction quotes sprinkled around your home, never seem to actually work in real life? Or perhaps you are someone who is tired of hearing people tell you “leave it to fate” or “go with the flow” – you’d never get anywhere in life if you did that! You are a walking incarnation of “if you believe it, you can become it!” and “the world is my oyster” instead!
What if I told you that, according to Evolutionary Astrology, BOTH fate and free will were actually true? That for some people, life IS all about fate - about letting go and allowing life to flow to them. That no matter how hard they try, predestined and fated life events will always be their companion.
And that for some people, life really does respond to their choices. It honors their will and drive to achieve certain outcomes, certain thought patterns and the creation of their OWN destiny . In fact, there are even some people that have a combination of BOTH fate and free will in their lives. Like a railway line running across the countryside, they use both sides of the track to get them where they need to go!
So how about you? Is your life more about fate, or free will? And what does this have to do with astrology anyhow?
Interestingly, Evolutionary Astrology teaches us that the measure of fate or free will in a person’s life can be assessed by the position of the planets in their chart. And it is simple to see. By dividing the circular chart into eastern houses and western houses, we have a system that shows on what side of the railway tracks our life tends to lean.
Let me give an example….. find the meridian line in your circular chart, represented by the symbology “MC – IC”. Anything on the left side of that line (the side of your ascendant) will be associated with your will power, your self-determination, your personal action that can achieve an outcome. This is known as the Eastern Hemisphere in our chart.
Polarically, anything right of that meridian line (the side of your descendant) will represent established forces in our lives, immovable powers, twists of fate. This is the Western Hemisphere. Count up the planets in your chart – how many do you have in each hemisphere (west or east)? If you have a big majority in the east (ascendant side), life for you circles around your intention, the power of your will, and the creation of your own destiny.
While a big swath of planets in the west (descendant) reveals that you must learn to cultivate adaptability, going with the flow, and TRUST that your soul contract is being fulfilled exactly on schedule.
And for those with more harmony and balance in their chart (an even spread of planets across both hemispheres) your life will experience both effects – phew! In my readings, I can look at the position of planets in these hemispheres, and how they might play out in your life with regards to fate or freewill.
Knowing this method has enabled me to relax a little more about my own life, which is heavily weighted to the fate side. I don’t have to get worked up when crazy stuff happens – I look at the signs, I trust my instincts, and I also trust my souls contract for growth. People with this signature find that life is more about “random forces striking in critical ways”, so fighting the fated momentum to be relocated to another part of the country, or to be retrenched, or to stop your partner leaving you, is basically a waste of energy. Instead, western hemisphere people should embrace and adapt to wherever the flow is taking them – maybe to experience a fabulous and expansive new culture with that relocation, or to find the job of a lifetime after that retrenchment, or to open up new fields of independence and life direction with the end of that relationship. When you are an eastern hemisphere person you can shape the tone of your life by you action or inaction.
Your own motivation and decisiveness will determine the outcome – sit on the couch all day, every day, watching Netflix and you will reap that harvest in your life. Choose to invest in your skills and talents, master your thought life, get fit, study hard, develop networks of friends and you will reap that harvest. It is entirely up to you – because your life, for good or ill, is in your own hands.
So what will you do with this information – will it set you free to trust that the Universe actually has your back? I hope so! Or will it give you the motivation to get out there and make it happen, knowing that you actually CAN! I hope so too!! Where ever your planets fall, just knowing that they make your relationship to fate and free will completely unique is empowering in itself. No longer do you have to pay attention to people telling you that you need more faith in your life to make things happen, or that if you worked harder you would be more successful. And in that, for each one of us, there is true freedom!
Feeling like you have no control over your own life? Like all the well intentioned law of attraction quotes sprinkled around your home, never seem to actually work in real life? Or perhaps you are someone who is tired of hearing people tell you “leave it to fate” or “go with the flow” – you’d never get anywhere in life if you did that! You are a walking incarnation of “if you believe it, you can become it!” and “the world is my oyster” instead!
What if I told you that, according to Evolutionary Astrology, BOTH fate and free will were actually true? That for some people, life IS all about fate - about letting go and allowing life to flow to them. That no matter how hard they try, predestined and fated life events will always be their companion.
And that for some people, life really does respond to their choices. It honors their will and drive to achieve certain outcomes, certain thought patterns and the creation of their OWN destiny . In fact, there are even some people that have a combination of BOTH fate and free will in their lives. Like a railway line running across the countryside, they use both sides of the track to get them where they need to go!
So how about you? Is your life more about fate, or free will? And what does this have to do with astrology anyhow?
Interestingly, Evolutionary Astrology teaches us that the measure of fate or free will in a person’s life can be assessed by the position of the planets in their chart. And it is simple to see. By dividing the circular chart into eastern houses and western houses, we have a system that shows on what side of the railway tracks our life tends to lean.
Let me give an example….. find the meridian line in your circular chart, represented by the symbology “MC – IC”. Anything on the left side of that line (the side of your ascendant) will be associated with your will power, your self-determination, your personal action that can achieve an outcome. This is known as the Eastern Hemisphere in our chart.
Polarically, anything right of that meridian line (the side of your descendant) will represent established forces in our lives, immovable powers, twists of fate. This is the Western Hemisphere. Count up the planets in your chart – how many do you have in each hemisphere (west or east)? If you have a big majority in the east (ascendant side), life for you circles around your intention, the power of your will, and the creation of your own destiny.
While a big swath of planets in the west (descendant) reveals that you must learn to cultivate adaptability, going with the flow, and TRUST that your soul contract is being fulfilled exactly on schedule.
And for those with more harmony and balance in their chart (an even spread of planets across both hemispheres) your life will experience both effects – phew! In my readings, I can look at the position of planets in these hemispheres, and how they might play out in your life with regards to fate or freewill.
Knowing this method has enabled me to relax a little more about my own life, which is heavily weighted to the fate side. I don’t have to get worked up when crazy stuff happens – I look at the signs, I trust my instincts, and I also trust my souls contract for growth. People with this signature find that life is more about “random forces striking in critical ways”, so fighting the fated momentum to be relocated to another part of the country, or to be retrenched, or to stop your partner leaving you, is basically a waste of energy. Instead, western hemisphere people should embrace and adapt to wherever the flow is taking them – maybe to experience a fabulous and expansive new culture with that relocation, or to find the job of a lifetime after that retrenchment, or to open up new fields of independence and life direction with the end of that relationship. When you are an eastern hemisphere person you can shape the tone of your life by you action or inaction.
Your own motivation and decisiveness will determine the outcome – sit on the couch all day, every day, watching Netflix and you will reap that harvest in your life. Choose to invest in your skills and talents, master your thought life, get fit, study hard, develop networks of friends and you will reap that harvest. It is entirely up to you – because your life, for good or ill, is in your own hands.
So what will you do with this information – will it set you free to trust that the Universe actually has your back? I hope so! Or will it give you the motivation to get out there and make it happen, knowing that you actually CAN! I hope so too!! Where ever your planets fall, just knowing that they make your relationship to fate and free will completely unique is empowering in itself. No longer do you have to pay attention to people telling you that you need more faith in your life to make things happen, or that if you worked harder you would be more successful. And in that, for each one of us, there is true freedom!
ANCIENT ASTROLOGY WISDOM
ANCIENT ASTROLOGY WISDOM
Astrology is the most ancient of sciences, with recognition of the stars, planets and cycles dating back to the earliest of human cultures on the earth. From its use as a cyclical calendar in early tribal cultures, through to more knowledge based advanced ancient societies, to its mutation into a hidden mystery or occult practice in the middle ages and finally the resurgence of popularity as the Aquarian age (ruler of astrology) arises, it has always been a tool in the guidance of mankind.
As we look to the future in astrology, it is important to recognize that there is so much wisdom we can draw from its past incarnations in previous cultures to enlighten us on our spiritual soul journey this lifetime. If you are interested in a perspective on Astrology that incorporates astrological science and techniques with intuition, personal soul evolution, ancient esoteric understandings, theory and philosophy, then this article is for you!
I am going to step through a handful of ancient cultural astrological beliefs and how they can be incorporated into our philosophical approach to astrology today. I will also mention some helpful techniques – so if you are more logically minded, hang in there, there will be something in this article for you too!
It is important to keep in mind that not everyone approaches astrology from the same perspective – and that is OK! There are those who incorporate an intuitive, spiritual sense, and those who appreciate a more method based approach to their astrology. Please refrain from judging those who do not come at astrology from your perspective. One of the rich and beautiful offerings of astrology is the recognition that we all have a unique energetic perspective to shine (earth, air, fire or water) that will resonate with different people.
EARLIEST CIVILIZATIONS AND ASTOLOGICAL PRACTICE
Shamanism is really the most ancient form of spiritual priest/priestess hood. Most ancient cultures had rituals and celebrations that were presided over by shamen or shawomen who functioned as mediums between the spirit world, medicine givers and healers, and the wisdom holders in their communities. These people were innately gifted in their practice – just as some are gifted with a warrior nature, others are gifted with a thinking nature, and others are gifted with a practical nature, shapeople carried gifts of feeling and intuition. Shapeople offered their profound sensitivities in service to their communities through their ‘6th sense’ and psychic abilities, their empathetic gifts, and their ability to function with more highly attuned feeling and intuition guidance.
Carl Jung noted this approach in cultures untouched by western civilization, where life worked more from intuition and understanding, and western cultures functioned largely from a conquest and rational approach. Carl Jung felt there was need or capacity to incorporate and honour these elements – seen in astrological charts by the modalities of earth, fire, air and water – in the human experience.
There are those who practice forms of ancient priest/priestess hood today, seeking to grow their consciousness through communion with hidden realms (spiritual, other dimensional) and use of ancient tools – tools such as dancing, drumming, music healing, energy work, chanting , dream work, attuning with nature and natural cycles, the recognition of omens and signs, and of course, understanding the language of the universe in the stars. Similarly to ancient shapeople, these practitioners today also seek to use their gifts in these areas to serve their communities and bring blessing to the world around them.
BELIEFS
Interestingly, did you know that scientists calculate that 60% of stars in the universe are in binary (or more) relationship with another star – and in western cultures 60% of adults are in a couple relationship with a partner? Just an interesting correlation – as above, so below.
Jupiter maturation at age 16 indicates sexual maturity
Sun maturation at age 21 indicates physical maturity
Moon at age 24 indicates emotional maturity
Venus at age 25 relational maturity
Mars at 28 capability and life strategy
Mercury at 32 skills talents and abilities
Saturn at 36 philosophical maturity – how you carry your burdens and sufferings
North Node at 42 – relative to its house position in your chart
South Node – also relative
Also, though the ancients were not aware of Uranus, modern astrology recognizes that the four quarters of Uranus in its cycle indicate the four stages of life – childhood, young adulthood, middle age, mature age.
And there are many more cyclical indications in the heavens but this is a small example.
NOT FOR EVERYONE
Ancient Astrology wisdom is not for everyone. It is more than a logical, calculated mathematical or ‘cookbook’ approach, as it incorporates philosophical and spiritual understanding, alongside as techniques.
The words below are from a review for my amazing astrological colleague, Heather, and when I read these words they really ‘clicked’ with me, especially with regard to ancient astrological philosophy, and my own personal experience that not everyone ‘gets astrology’, and even within astro circles, not everyone ‘gets the spiritual component’. (Thank you Heather and Chriselda for permission to use this quote!)
“People who only base their understanding of life in what they call “logic” ironically don’t realize that astrology is anything but LOGICAL. It is alchemical. It is the science of ALL AGES because it is rooted in (age old) truths that have been hidden, scapegoated, demonized and therefore ridiculed….”
USE OF ANCIENT ASTROLOGY WISDOM
When I do a reading I use astrological techniques from many sources – Western, Evolutionary, Jamini etc – but the philosophy of our connection to the earth and the sky, the cycles of the planets relating to our seasons of life, the importance of every element/sign/planet and placement, and the equality of all life experience influences what I see in the chart, stemming from my understanding Ancient Astrology principals.
Ancient astrological philosophy can support our astrological practice if our intent is to empower and support others. To do so we need to ‘tune in’ to our clients with our intuition and feeling capacity, just as the ancient wisdom keepers, medicine givers, sages and tribal wise ones did for their communities. We need to understand our own and our clients life questions and journey at a soul level, in order to really be of assistance.
Astrology has become my spiritual connection with God and what the Universe is communicating to humanity. I hope that by combining my understanding of wisdom theory with astrological knowledge I may bring the language of the heavens into greater clarity and understanding within your life.
You can also watch the video I prepared for the Astrolada channel on this topic here
ANCIENT ASTROLOGY WISDOM
Astrology is the most ancient of sciences, with recognition of the stars, planets and cycles dating back to the earliest of human cultures on the earth. From its use as a cyclical calendar in early tribal cultures, through to more knowledge based advanced ancient societies, to its mutation into a hidden mystery or occult practice in the middle ages and finally the resurgence of popularity as the Aquarian age (ruler of astrology) arises, it has always been a tool in the guidance of mankind.
As we look to the future in astrology, it is important to recognize that there is so much wisdom we can draw from its past incarnations in previous cultures to enlighten us on our spiritual soul journey this lifetime. If you are interested in a perspective on Astrology that incorporates astrological science and techniques with intuition, personal soul evolution, ancient esoteric understandings, theory and philosophy, then this article is for you!
I am going to step through a handful of ancient cultural astrological beliefs and how they can be incorporated into our philosophical approach to astrology today. I will also mention some helpful techniques – so if you are more logically minded, hang in there, there will be something in this article for you too!
It is important to keep in mind that not everyone approaches astrology from the same perspective – and that is OK! There are those who incorporate an intuitive, spiritual sense, and those who appreciate a more method based approach to their astrology. Please refrain from judging those who do not come at astrology from your perspective. One of the rich and beautiful offerings of astrology is the recognition that we all have a unique energetic perspective to shine (earth, air, fire or water) that will resonate with different people.
EARLIEST CIVILIZATIONS AND ASTOLOGICAL PRACTICE
Shamanism is really the most ancient form of spiritual priest/priestess hood. Most ancient cultures had rituals and celebrations that were presided over by shamen or shawomen who functioned as mediums between the spirit world, medicine givers and healers, and the wisdom holders in their communities. These people were innately gifted in their practice – just as some are gifted with a warrior nature, others are gifted with a thinking nature, and others are gifted with a practical nature, shapeople carried gifts of feeling and intuition. Shapeople offered their profound sensitivities in service to their communities through their ‘6th sense’ and psychic abilities, their empathetic gifts, and their ability to function with more highly attuned feeling and intuition guidance.
Carl Jung noted this approach in cultures untouched by western civilization, where life worked more from intuition and understanding, and western cultures functioned largely from a conquest and rational approach. Carl Jung felt there was need or capacity to incorporate and honour these elements – seen in astrological charts by the modalities of earth, fire, air and water – in the human experience.
There are those who practice forms of ancient priest/priestess hood today, seeking to grow their consciousness through communion with hidden realms (spiritual, other dimensional) and use of ancient tools – tools such as dancing, drumming, music healing, energy work, chanting , dream work, attuning with nature and natural cycles, the recognition of omens and signs, and of course, understanding the language of the universe in the stars. Similarly to ancient shapeople, these practitioners today also seek to use their gifts in these areas to serve their communities and bring blessing to the world around them.
BELIEFS
- THE UNIVERSE IS ALIVE. Ancient peoples believed that anything that could move had a soul, had desires. As the planets moved in the sky against the backdrop of the fixed stars, this gave rise to the concept of an intelligent soul for each of the planets, and subsequently, the concept of the zodiac as the seat of the gods. It also eventually lead to the creation of planetary god mythology with humanlike attributes and characteristics seen in almost every ancient astrological practice.
- ONE WITH ALL THINGS. The Celtic cultures saw the world as both magical and interconnected – we are one with all things. The trees and animals were reflected in their zodiac, and communication with the spirits of sacred trees (nymphs and dryads) formed part of their spiritual belief. They held that all of nature was sacred and spiritual. They believed that what was represented above was reflected, or a reflection of, what was happening on earth. Ancient spiritual practice at its core is a celebration of our interconnectedness – not just an intellectual understanding of life and the world, but rather, our role and connection to the larger system of the earth and universe.
Interestingly, did you know that scientists calculate that 60% of stars in the universe are in binary (or more) relationship with another star – and in western cultures 60% of adults are in a couple relationship with a partner? Just an interesting correlation – as above, so below.
- WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH OUR WORLD. Tied to the as above so below theory, cultures such as the Indigenous Americans believed that we were able to communicate with the universe by interacting with the spirit of the earth, the planets, our ancestors, our dreams and nature. We could not control such energy, but we could work with and in alignment to such energies. For example, learning to understand the significance of certain animal omens or certain weather patterns as indicators of coming personal events or energy in our lives…
- ASTROLOGY IS CYCLICAL. Indigenous astrology is the oldest form of astrology as it predates chart making astrology forms – almost every indigenous culture had its own version of interaction with the celestial cycles. For example, the Australian Aborigines used astrological cycles to help them know when to hunt, gather seeds, do their ceremonies and undertake certain individual rituals, such as the Australia Aboriginal walkabout. Belief in the cycles of life and the celebration of our human experience of these cycles also formed part of these early astrologically based cultures – childhood to adulthood, marriage, birth of offspring, death etc.
Jupiter maturation at age 16 indicates sexual maturity
Sun maturation at age 21 indicates physical maturity
Moon at age 24 indicates emotional maturity
Venus at age 25 relational maturity
Mars at 28 capability and life strategy
Mercury at 32 skills talents and abilities
Saturn at 36 philosophical maturity – how you carry your burdens and sufferings
North Node at 42 – relative to its house position in your chart
South Node – also relative
Also, though the ancients were not aware of Uranus, modern astrology recognizes that the four quarters of Uranus in its cycle indicate the four stages of life – childhood, young adulthood, middle age, mature age.
And there are many more cyclical indications in the heavens but this is a small example.
- THE EARTH IS SACRED. Indigenous American, Australian and Celtic traditions (to name but a few!) believed that the earth was sacred - that we need to honour her nature, cycles and seasons. Respect for the earth (modern day Environmentalism) is important.
- MYTHOLOGY AND STORIES. Again, many tribal cultures such as the Mayan and Aboriginal, as well as the first organized systems of astrology in Babylon, Greece and Egypt, used their rituals, stories and ceremonies as mythical re-enactments of cosmological events. Modern Western astrology continues to draw from the insights Hellenistic mythology offered to describe planets, the signs and their effects on humanity. Similarly, modern psychology uses archetypes to describe personalities (for example, the 16 Personalities test based on the Jungian Myers Briggs analysis). Such expressions and storytelling assist our understanding of the characteristics of the Zodiac, and therefore, ourselves.
- EQUALITY. Interestingly, there is great variance between cultures for the interpretation of male/female energies. For example, Australian Aboriginal astrology viewed the Sun as female and the Moon as male – the opposite of our contemporary view of the energies. Similarly, in Mayan astrology, Venus was considered the planet of war. Tribes would time their sacrifices and warfare to align with the helical rising of Venus as the Morning Star. From the third century BC the principal of Yin and Yang was incorporated as part of Chinese cosmology. This is the principal that all things exist in inseparable and contradictory opposites and is therefore non hierarchical – all is equal – male/ female, youth / age, dark / light, good/ bad – each with an element of the other at its core.
- RESPECT FOR THE TOTALITY OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE. As illustrated by the Yin Yang, all experience is important – the light and the shadow of who we are, our youth, our middle age, our old age is all of value and should be honoured. This is an important component of Ancient Astrology Wisdom, where we see that nothing is inherently ‘bad’ (malefic eg. most parents who raise their children with appropriate boundaries will understand the intent behind the phrase ‘you’ve got to be cruel to be kind’) and nothing is inherently ‘good’ (benefic eg. we all know the phrase ‘too much of a good thing’). Everything serves its purpose in both the karma and evolution of our souls. Eg. Saturn can be a planet of psychic protection in the chart; Venus can represent our struggles with relationship as a reaction to past life relational experiences.
- REINCARNATION. Almost every ancient astrologically based culture believed in the afterlife, and most in reincarnation and past lives as part of the evolution of our souls. In Hindu and Western Astrology past lives are revealed in the chart through both the south node of the moon, the moon itself, the 12th house and the placement of some karmic planets (Saturn and Venus particularly)
NOT FOR EVERYONE
Ancient Astrology wisdom is not for everyone. It is more than a logical, calculated mathematical or ‘cookbook’ approach, as it incorporates philosophical and spiritual understanding, alongside as techniques.
The words below are from a review for my amazing astrological colleague, Heather, and when I read these words they really ‘clicked’ with me, especially with regard to ancient astrological philosophy, and my own personal experience that not everyone ‘gets astrology’, and even within astro circles, not everyone ‘gets the spiritual component’. (Thank you Heather and Chriselda for permission to use this quote!)
“People who only base their understanding of life in what they call “logic” ironically don’t realize that astrology is anything but LOGICAL. It is alchemical. It is the science of ALL AGES because it is rooted in (age old) truths that have been hidden, scapegoated, demonized and therefore ridiculed….”
USE OF ANCIENT ASTROLOGY WISDOM
When I do a reading I use astrological techniques from many sources – Western, Evolutionary, Jamini etc – but the philosophy of our connection to the earth and the sky, the cycles of the planets relating to our seasons of life, the importance of every element/sign/planet and placement, and the equality of all life experience influences what I see in the chart, stemming from my understanding Ancient Astrology principals.
Ancient astrological philosophy can support our astrological practice if our intent is to empower and support others. To do so we need to ‘tune in’ to our clients with our intuition and feeling capacity, just as the ancient wisdom keepers, medicine givers, sages and tribal wise ones did for their communities. We need to understand our own and our clients life questions and journey at a soul level, in order to really be of assistance.
Astrology has become my spiritual connection with God and what the Universe is communicating to humanity. I hope that by combining my understanding of wisdom theory with astrological knowledge I may bring the language of the heavens into greater clarity and understanding within your life.
You can also watch the video I prepared for the Astrolada channel on this topic here
WOMEN WITH SATURN CONJUNCT VENUS
I smiled good naturedly while inside my heart was breaking, and my tentative teenage pride suffered one of many confidence shattering blows. He meant it as a compliment, I knew that, but an immature teenage boy is not always the best judge of the appropriate words to unleash on a 16 year old female friend…
“Amy’s so stunning, if only she had your personality she’d be perfect.” What my sensitive Piscean soul heard was “What a shame you aren’t as good looking and appealing as Amy”, especially as, in the subsequent days after this phrase was uttered, the child-man started ‘going out’ with Amy, who knew I had been pinning for him for eons.
Incidents such as this were quite common throughout my teenage years as my lovely friends attracted truckloads of attention from the opposite sex, while I remained in the ‘good friends’ category….the girl a guy could count on to assist him in arranging romances with my various friends in and out of school life.
Let me point out that I was not unattractive to look at, nor lacking conversational skills, or dreams and ambitions, a mild amount of intellect or friendly approachability. However, by the time I was 23 I had been in (unrequited) love on occasions too numerous to mention, and was very familiar with the ‘weak at the knees’ phenomenon - that overwhelming physical reaction to another that indicates intense emotion, whilst all the while trying to clamp down and conceal those feelings out of massive fear of rejection.
Time rolled along and I married the first boyfriend I did eventually have – we had much karma to unravel this lifetime – yet 6 weeks into the marriage, a total of one year since meeting, I found myself grieving for the suddenly lost romance, the lost feeling of actually being loved and appreciated, as we settled into a very dutiful, dry and cold style of married life.
“No, we can’t go on a date to the movies, we need to save money for a house deposit.”
“You should do that university course to so that you can get a good job to support me.”
“I can’t come to your friend’s wedding with you, I need to work on the house.”
“Going out with those friends for dinner is out of the question, I’ve got vintage car parts coming from America that I am going to need to pay for.”
Sigh.
However, this is not an article about feeling sorry for oneself or bemoaning my lot. Rather, I want to share what it looks like to have Venus at the exact same point as Saturn in the horoscope. This is what it looks like. For me there was no physical abuse, no violence, none of the horrors many women are subjected to. It was simply a feeling of total deprivation around love, romance, care and relational connection – no Venusian sensuality, pleasure or enjoyment, precious little affirmation, just a Saturnian emphasis on work, responsibility and social status day in, day out.
In ancient astrology there is a rule – Whatever Saturn conjuncts it starves –Let me tell you a little more about it….
Having Saturn at the same point as Venus in the sky when you are born, particularly when in a weak sign for both planets - namely Leo or Cancer - results in feelings of being starved for
• love,
• being appreciated in love,
• feeling attractive as a woman,
• relationships where everyone gives and receives equally.
Due to the feminine influence of Venus in this configuration, if you are a woman with this point, you will tend to give more to your partner than you will receive. Similarly, in single life you will attract love from men that you are absolutely not in love with, however, the men you desire you will always feel thirsty for, never able to be satisfied. This is the case even if you are married – you may feel that if you can just please him more, make him proud of you in some way, do something to make his life better, then he will finally give you the love you crave from him.
It has been seen in past life regressions for people with this signature (remember Saturn is a karmic planet) that they had love, but they either
1. Neglected the marriage (think shutting the partner out due to hurt or wounding)
2. Put their partners down
3. And in the worst case scenario, were starved for love (married or not) and eventually embittered themselves towards it – denying and denouncing love, becoming cynical and frustrated towards men, or simply those who were starving them and hurting them in love. Were not able to overcome the resentment and the closing of their hearts.
For women, like me, with this point in our charts, part of our soul journey is to experience these things again to learn to overcome resentment, closing of the heart or cynicism about love. Quite the challenge, but hey, I don’t want to have to learn those lessons again in the next lifetime….I’m quite happy to put in the hard yards now!
By now you are possibly asking “Isn’t there any way that this unfortunate condition (I’m going to avoid using the ‘c’ word – “curse”) can be healed? Revoked? Released?” The answer, I am so pleased to say, is yes!
How do we learn to appreciate something we have neglected or suffered with in a past lifetime? Through the Saturn influence – this is his karma. We are given lots of delays and problems in the area of our lives where he resides. In this example, it’s all things related to Venus - if I was starved of love in my past life, and I allowed it to make me bitter and twisted, then in this lifetime I am going to experience delays, problems and frustrations related to love and relationships. And then, when eventually I do find a good relationship, love, sensuality, personal valuing in partnership (Venusian things), I will be so grateful. I can appreciate it so much more, can cherish and treasure it like I would not have without the starvation.
“They say that in the second part of one’s life Saturn starts giving better relationships. It’s almost like Saturn makes you pay off karma in the first part of your life because of neglect to such themes in past lifetimes.”
Lada Duncheva
So, what will help you remove the delays of Saturn in life?
Firstly, know that in the second half of your life, Saturn will release its grip on any planets it is influencing. YAY! With an average life expectancy of 70 years, we can look for the release of the grip of Saturn at around 35. If you fail to feel the release at that time, hang in there – you may be going to live a very long life! One of Saturn’s lessons is developing the capacity to endure, so stay strong if you want to see the release!
Secondly, work on consciously trying to accept yourself the way you are. Be natural, be yourself. Particularly with reference to relationships – and I speak from experience here…. people with Saturn conjunct Venus can be a bit more rigid, especially when they are really in love, they stiffen up and become much more sensitive (particularly their ego). They can be more intensely controlling of their romantic feelings, or more insecure and fearful of relationships in general. They can either put others down, or allow others to put them down. Acceptance is key here – start liking yourself and being yourself no matter what. Don’t put on the high heels, a mini skirt and hit the dance floor to attract a man if all you really want is to settle in with a book at the library – go to the library! Saturn is the planet of detachment and acceptance, and only once you have embraced detachment from love and acceptance of who you are will Saturn start releasing its influence.
Thirdly, and very importantly, don’t allow yourself to grow bitter and twisted in this lifetime. I know this is often easier said than done, especially when the very heavy energy of Saturn is felt strongly in one’s life. But this is the work. This is the responsibility of your soul this time around. Fill your life with affirmations. Stand up for yourself. Surround yourself with uplifting people. Do wonderful things that make you glad – swim in the ocean, read great stories, travel to far off lands, eat cake! Make your life as grateful and joyful as you can, despite that nagging longing deep down….sometimes that’s just the best we can do. To feel that longing, and choose whatever level of happiness we can achieve anyway. In the ever profound words of Eckhart Tolle
“If you can accept that you feel unhappy,
You won’t stay unhappy for long.”
And lastly, realise that you are not alone! There are times when Saturn Venus conjunction will feel like a curse…..I am writing today to tell you I know your pain! And there are millions of people around the world who know your pain. You may feel alone, but you most certainly are not. If we started a Saturn Conjunct Venus Anon group, we would all be surprised by how many people would attend – the experience of starvation in love is quite common…. Especially for people born in the mid 1970's, who experienced Saturn in Cancer and Leo, and anyone born from 2003 – 2007… 30 years later.
Vedic astrology also offers some wonderful Saturn "remedies" to release us from the grip of Saturn - namely, to offer service to the area of life (the house placement) where Saturn resides in your chart. Let me use a 5th house placement of Saturn for an example. Fifth house rules children, love affairs, romance, creative expression and joy (to name only a few things!) - this is a great placement to offer service to children. Host a morning tea to raise money for children's charities, volunteering at your local library to host story time for children, even raising your own children are all powerful ways to unravel Saturn karma if you have him placed in the fifth house. The possibilities are endless. A second Vedic Astrology remedy is to fast on a Saturday (Saturns-day). Fasting is blocking, restricting, denying yourself something - all activities of Saturn - so by willingly choosing to deny yourself something every Saturday, you are essentially saying to Saturn "I know you are blocking a certain area of my life, however, today I am redirecting your energy of blockage to something I choose, so that you will release the grip of blockage you have over the other area of my life." You have to commit to regular fasting for the long haul - Saturn is a marathon runner, not a sprinter. Personally, I do not have coffee or tea on a Saturday as my continual statement to Saturn that I want this blockage undone and resolved - You can choose whatever you like....fast from technology, from TV, from one meal, from your favourite hazelnut chocolate ice-cream - the choice is yours!
Despite, the negative vibes this article might raise for many, I felt it important to share what life is like for people with this aspect. I am in my early 40’s and have yet to see Saturn release its grip on me….. yet my life is an enchanting adventure of new people, new places, new experiences and new soul revealing self-discovery. It really is an incredible journey….. one that, possibly, the beautiful Amy might just envy if she knew!
I smiled good naturedly while inside my heart was breaking, and my tentative teenage pride suffered one of many confidence shattering blows. He meant it as a compliment, I knew that, but an immature teenage boy is not always the best judge of the appropriate words to unleash on a 16 year old female friend…
“Amy’s so stunning, if only she had your personality she’d be perfect.” What my sensitive Piscean soul heard was “What a shame you aren’t as good looking and appealing as Amy”, especially as, in the subsequent days after this phrase was uttered, the child-man started ‘going out’ with Amy, who knew I had been pinning for him for eons.
Incidents such as this were quite common throughout my teenage years as my lovely friends attracted truckloads of attention from the opposite sex, while I remained in the ‘good friends’ category….the girl a guy could count on to assist him in arranging romances with my various friends in and out of school life.
Let me point out that I was not unattractive to look at, nor lacking conversational skills, or dreams and ambitions, a mild amount of intellect or friendly approachability. However, by the time I was 23 I had been in (unrequited) love on occasions too numerous to mention, and was very familiar with the ‘weak at the knees’ phenomenon - that overwhelming physical reaction to another that indicates intense emotion, whilst all the while trying to clamp down and conceal those feelings out of massive fear of rejection.
Time rolled along and I married the first boyfriend I did eventually have – we had much karma to unravel this lifetime – yet 6 weeks into the marriage, a total of one year since meeting, I found myself grieving for the suddenly lost romance, the lost feeling of actually being loved and appreciated, as we settled into a very dutiful, dry and cold style of married life.
“No, we can’t go on a date to the movies, we need to save money for a house deposit.”
“You should do that university course to so that you can get a good job to support me.”
“I can’t come to your friend’s wedding with you, I need to work on the house.”
“Going out with those friends for dinner is out of the question, I’ve got vintage car parts coming from America that I am going to need to pay for.”
Sigh.
However, this is not an article about feeling sorry for oneself or bemoaning my lot. Rather, I want to share what it looks like to have Venus at the exact same point as Saturn in the horoscope. This is what it looks like. For me there was no physical abuse, no violence, none of the horrors many women are subjected to. It was simply a feeling of total deprivation around love, romance, care and relational connection – no Venusian sensuality, pleasure or enjoyment, precious little affirmation, just a Saturnian emphasis on work, responsibility and social status day in, day out.
In ancient astrology there is a rule – Whatever Saturn conjuncts it starves –Let me tell you a little more about it….
Having Saturn at the same point as Venus in the sky when you are born, particularly when in a weak sign for both planets - namely Leo or Cancer - results in feelings of being starved for
• love,
• being appreciated in love,
• feeling attractive as a woman,
• relationships where everyone gives and receives equally.
Due to the feminine influence of Venus in this configuration, if you are a woman with this point, you will tend to give more to your partner than you will receive. Similarly, in single life you will attract love from men that you are absolutely not in love with, however, the men you desire you will always feel thirsty for, never able to be satisfied. This is the case even if you are married – you may feel that if you can just please him more, make him proud of you in some way, do something to make his life better, then he will finally give you the love you crave from him.
It has been seen in past life regressions for people with this signature (remember Saturn is a karmic planet) that they had love, but they either
1. Neglected the marriage (think shutting the partner out due to hurt or wounding)
2. Put their partners down
3. And in the worst case scenario, were starved for love (married or not) and eventually embittered themselves towards it – denying and denouncing love, becoming cynical and frustrated towards men, or simply those who were starving them and hurting them in love. Were not able to overcome the resentment and the closing of their hearts.
For women, like me, with this point in our charts, part of our soul journey is to experience these things again to learn to overcome resentment, closing of the heart or cynicism about love. Quite the challenge, but hey, I don’t want to have to learn those lessons again in the next lifetime….I’m quite happy to put in the hard yards now!
By now you are possibly asking “Isn’t there any way that this unfortunate condition (I’m going to avoid using the ‘c’ word – “curse”) can be healed? Revoked? Released?” The answer, I am so pleased to say, is yes!
How do we learn to appreciate something we have neglected or suffered with in a past lifetime? Through the Saturn influence – this is his karma. We are given lots of delays and problems in the area of our lives where he resides. In this example, it’s all things related to Venus - if I was starved of love in my past life, and I allowed it to make me bitter and twisted, then in this lifetime I am going to experience delays, problems and frustrations related to love and relationships. And then, when eventually I do find a good relationship, love, sensuality, personal valuing in partnership (Venusian things), I will be so grateful. I can appreciate it so much more, can cherish and treasure it like I would not have without the starvation.
“They say that in the second part of one’s life Saturn starts giving better relationships. It’s almost like Saturn makes you pay off karma in the first part of your life because of neglect to such themes in past lifetimes.”
Lada Duncheva
So, what will help you remove the delays of Saturn in life?
Firstly, know that in the second half of your life, Saturn will release its grip on any planets it is influencing. YAY! With an average life expectancy of 70 years, we can look for the release of the grip of Saturn at around 35. If you fail to feel the release at that time, hang in there – you may be going to live a very long life! One of Saturn’s lessons is developing the capacity to endure, so stay strong if you want to see the release!
Secondly, work on consciously trying to accept yourself the way you are. Be natural, be yourself. Particularly with reference to relationships – and I speak from experience here…. people with Saturn conjunct Venus can be a bit more rigid, especially when they are really in love, they stiffen up and become much more sensitive (particularly their ego). They can be more intensely controlling of their romantic feelings, or more insecure and fearful of relationships in general. They can either put others down, or allow others to put them down. Acceptance is key here – start liking yourself and being yourself no matter what. Don’t put on the high heels, a mini skirt and hit the dance floor to attract a man if all you really want is to settle in with a book at the library – go to the library! Saturn is the planet of detachment and acceptance, and only once you have embraced detachment from love and acceptance of who you are will Saturn start releasing its influence.
Thirdly, and very importantly, don’t allow yourself to grow bitter and twisted in this lifetime. I know this is often easier said than done, especially when the very heavy energy of Saturn is felt strongly in one’s life. But this is the work. This is the responsibility of your soul this time around. Fill your life with affirmations. Stand up for yourself. Surround yourself with uplifting people. Do wonderful things that make you glad – swim in the ocean, read great stories, travel to far off lands, eat cake! Make your life as grateful and joyful as you can, despite that nagging longing deep down….sometimes that’s just the best we can do. To feel that longing, and choose whatever level of happiness we can achieve anyway. In the ever profound words of Eckhart Tolle
“If you can accept that you feel unhappy,
You won’t stay unhappy for long.”
And lastly, realise that you are not alone! There are times when Saturn Venus conjunction will feel like a curse…..I am writing today to tell you I know your pain! And there are millions of people around the world who know your pain. You may feel alone, but you most certainly are not. If we started a Saturn Conjunct Venus Anon group, we would all be surprised by how many people would attend – the experience of starvation in love is quite common…. Especially for people born in the mid 1970's, who experienced Saturn in Cancer and Leo, and anyone born from 2003 – 2007… 30 years later.
Vedic astrology also offers some wonderful Saturn "remedies" to release us from the grip of Saturn - namely, to offer service to the area of life (the house placement) where Saturn resides in your chart. Let me use a 5th house placement of Saturn for an example. Fifth house rules children, love affairs, romance, creative expression and joy (to name only a few things!) - this is a great placement to offer service to children. Host a morning tea to raise money for children's charities, volunteering at your local library to host story time for children, even raising your own children are all powerful ways to unravel Saturn karma if you have him placed in the fifth house. The possibilities are endless. A second Vedic Astrology remedy is to fast on a Saturday (Saturns-day). Fasting is blocking, restricting, denying yourself something - all activities of Saturn - so by willingly choosing to deny yourself something every Saturday, you are essentially saying to Saturn "I know you are blocking a certain area of my life, however, today I am redirecting your energy of blockage to something I choose, so that you will release the grip of blockage you have over the other area of my life." You have to commit to regular fasting for the long haul - Saturn is a marathon runner, not a sprinter. Personally, I do not have coffee or tea on a Saturday as my continual statement to Saturn that I want this blockage undone and resolved - You can choose whatever you like....fast from technology, from TV, from one meal, from your favourite hazelnut chocolate ice-cream - the choice is yours!
Despite, the negative vibes this article might raise for many, I felt it important to share what life is like for people with this aspect. I am in my early 40’s and have yet to see Saturn release its grip on me….. yet my life is an enchanting adventure of new people, new places, new experiences and new soul revealing self-discovery. It really is an incredible journey….. one that, possibly, the beautiful Amy might just envy if she knew!